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The Thinker Who Changed Christian Theology Forever — with Gerald Bray

Few figures in church history are as controversial—or as influential—as Origen. Brilliant, speculative, and often misunderstood, his ideas sparked debate in his own lifetime and cast a long shadow over Christian theology for centuries to follow.

In this episode, Gerald Bray (Beeson Divinity School) joins us to explore who Origen really was, why some of his ideas were considered problematic, and why he remains impossible to ignore. We discuss Origen as a major turning point in the intellectual life of the church—one of the first to seriously systematize the Christian faith, ask hard questions, and push theology into new territory.

This conversation isn’t about rehabilitating Origen or dismissing him, but about understanding why engaging him still stretches the church’s thinking today—and why his legacy continues to provoke, challenge, and stimulate serious theological reflection.

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Why Community Doesn’t Form by Accident — with Paul Gutacker

What actually helps Christians grow together over time? In this episode, Paul Gutacker joins us to discuss his book Practicing Life Together, exploring how shared spiritual practices shape both personal faith and Christian community. Using the idea of a rule of life as a trellis, Paul shows how habits like prayer, shared meals, study, and Sabbath provide structure that supports lasting growth. This conversation offers a practical and hopeful vision for intentional Christian living—together.

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When God Leads Through Weak People — with Dave Harvey

Christian leadership often celebrates strength — gifting, vision, productivity. But Scripture keeps pushing us somewhere counterintuitive: to weakness, dependence, and the kind of leadership where God’s power is the point, not ours. In this episode, Dave Harvey unpacks the core message of The Clay Pot Conspiracy: leaders don’t fall because they’re weak — they fall because they hide it. And when we cover our limits, protect our image, or outrun our character, we step away from the very place where God works most powerfully. We talk about the quiet patterns that shape leaders over time, why vulnerability is essential for integrity, and how embracing our fragility isn’t a liability but the doorway to sustained, God-dependent ministry. For pastors, ministry leaders, and anyone who wants to lead without pretending to be strong, this conversation offers a clear, honest, and deeply hopeful path forward.

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What the Early Church Thought About the End of the World — with Michael Svigel

What did the early Christians actually expect about the future? Were they vague or symbolic, or did they have a clear picture of what was to come?

In this episode, Dr. Michael Svigel shares insights from his book Fathers on the Future, revealing that second-century leaders like Irenaeus anticipated a real, visible kingdom, Christ’s return, and a renewed world.

We’ll explore:

• How the early church imagined the future

• Common misunderstandings about their expectations

• What we can learn about hope and faith from their perspective

Even if you’re not familiar with debates about the “millennium” or the end times, this conversation offers a fascinating window into how the first Christians lived in light of what they believed was coming.

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Learning to Pray with the Book of Common Prayer — with Jonathan Kanary

Most of us learn to pray by listening to others. But what if we could learn from the prayers of believers who have gone before us — prayers shaped by Scripture, refined through centuries, and written to form our hearts and words together?

In this episode, we talk with Jonathan Kanary about The Book of Common Prayer — what it is, how it’s structured, and why it’s one of the most deeply Protestant resources ever written. They explore how written prayers don’t replace spontaneous prayer, but actually train us for it, and how praying together with common words shapes a community in faith, humility, and love.

If you’ve ever wondered whether written prayers are “too formal” or “too high church,” this conversation will give you a fresh, surprising look at a book designed to help ordinary believers learn to pray.

Replay: What Every Christian Can Learn from the Church Fathers

We’re reposting this episode in anticipation of Reformation Day. John Henry Newman once said, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant." Dr. Michael Haykin disagrees — and in this conversation, he shows why Christians today need the wisdom of the early Church Fathers.

Join us as we explore:

• What Cyprian, Athanasius, Augustine, Ignatius, Irenaeus, and Clement teach about baptism, communion, and church leadership

• Common myths about the Church Fathers and why their example of faithful, reflective living matters today

• How their pursuit of holiness can shape your daily devotion and spiritual growth

• Fun (and surprising) clarifications: Is John MacArthur a bishop? Are Presbyterians right about infant baptism?

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The Case for Baptizing Children (Part 2): A Follow-Up to My Interview with Samuel Parkison

A follow-up to my conversation with Samuel Parkison on baptism and the faith of children. We rightly guard against false assurance—but can that caution lead us to delay baptism too long? In this episode, we explore household theology, the “paedobaptist pull,” and the danger of penalizing kids for good catechesis or “boring” testimonies. How can Baptists recover discernment without drifting into legalism or despair?

Read Samuel’s Article: https://samuelparkison.substack.com/p/the-baptist-case-for-baptizing-believing

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The Case for Baptizing Children (Part 1) — with Samuel Parkison

Many Baptists delay baptism for children, but is that really faithful to Scripture and the church’s theology? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Samuel Parkison to discuss his provocative case for baptizing believing children. We explore why hesitation often stems from fear of “false professions,” how delaying baptism can unintentionally weaken our view of membership and the sacraments, and what it looks like to encourage genuine childhood piety without lapsing into legalism. Samuel also shares practical wisdom on how pastors and congregations can discern a child’s faith, navigate questions of “re-baptism,” and recover a healthier, grace-filled culture of catechesis.

Read Samuel’s Article: https://samuelparkison.substack.com/p/the-baptist-case-for-baptizing-believing

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Understanding the Story of Scripture — with Jonathan Linebaugh

If you’ve ever wondered how the Bible fits together—or how its story leads us to Jesus—this episode is for you. I sit down with Dr. Jonathan Linebaugh, New Testament scholar and expert on Paul’s theology, to explore how the law, grace, and gospel fit within the grand narrative of Scripture. We talk about how Paul reads the Old Testament, why the gospel is not just good advice but good news, and how grasping the biblical story can reshape the way we live as Christians today.

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From the Archives: Protestants vs. Roman Catholics on Justification — with Guillaume Bignon

From the Archives:

Revisiting an old favorite! Think you know the Reformation? Most Protestants reject Catholic teaching—but do we really understand what was at stake? In this episode, Dr. Guillaume Bignon unpacks the real debates between Catholics and Protestants and shows why they still matter for our faith today.

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